[MrJWhit] R3dtaile Note Appeal
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:29 am
Thread title: [MrJWhit] R3dtaile Note appeal
Noting admin: MrJWhit
Ban type: Note
Note Reason: Harmbatonned a non-aggressive person who was stun immune as HOS.
My Side of the Story: The shift was fairly hectic for the last 30 minutes or so, dealing with a space traitor, and someone else who had sleeping carp. In addition to being hit with a looping rod twice. Then we have reports of Feasel having adrenals. In dealing with what I was dealing with, transferring someone who had sleeping carp and executing them, I was more focused on that incidence, and when I get back to being able to appropriately focus on what the rest of security was dealing with, I hear reports of Feasel running around with adrenals and gravity armour. I react appropriately and attempt to detain them. This lasts unti l the shuttle is called, where it’s too late to get to the armoury for more nonlethal options such as the temp gun. So had to make do with what we had, which even after being dragnetted, Feasel kept running around. At this point I was under full belief that they had adrenals, due to the context of the rest of the round and confirmed traitors on board. He finally got stunned again , and while, yes, I was accidentally still on harm intent when I went to baton him , the fact the warden , who was more knowledgeable on the situation than I , opened up with lethals, I followed suit, due to nonlethal options not being a possibility. It even says in the rules that We’re allowed to use lethal force when nonlethal options simply are not working. So after the warden used buckshot, I kept batonning him, which caused the gravity armour to trigger, repulsing us. I was working under the impression that it was toggleable, and that Feasel was doing it. So I I just wanted him to stop. Come round end, he was not a traitor. I don’t think this note is in good faith, due to it being perfectly rational to escalate to lethal force if nonlethal force was not accomplishing the job adequately enough. The application of lethal force was made in , good, but misguided faith, and I do not believe I should be noted for that. With all the information I had on hand, I, and the warden, resolved the situation as best as we could.
Noting admin: MrJWhit
Ban type: Note
Note Reason: Harmbatonned a non-aggressive person who was stun immune as HOS.
My Side of the Story: The shift was fairly hectic for the last 30 minutes or so, dealing with a space traitor, and someone else who had sleeping carp. In addition to being hit with a looping rod twice. Then we have reports of Feasel having adrenals. In dealing with what I was dealing with, transferring someone who had sleeping carp and executing them, I was more focused on that incidence, and when I get back to being able to appropriately focus on what the rest of security was dealing with, I hear reports of Feasel running around with adrenals and gravity armour. I react appropriately and attempt to detain them. This lasts unti l the shuttle is called, where it’s too late to get to the armoury for more nonlethal options such as the temp gun. So had to make do with what we had, which even after being dragnetted, Feasel kept running around. At this point I was under full belief that they had adrenals, due to the context of the rest of the round and confirmed traitors on board. He finally got stunned again , and while, yes, I was accidentally still on harm intent when I went to baton him , the fact the warden , who was more knowledgeable on the situation than I , opened up with lethals, I followed suit, due to nonlethal options not being a possibility. It even says in the rules that We’re allowed to use lethal force when nonlethal options simply are not working. So after the warden used buckshot, I kept batonning him, which caused the gravity armour to trigger, repulsing us. I was working under the impression that it was toggleable, and that Feasel was doing it. So I I just wanted him to stop. Come round end, he was not a traitor. I don’t think this note is in good faith, due to it being perfectly rational to escalate to lethal force if nonlethal force was not accomplishing the job adequately enough. The application of lethal force was made in , good, but misguided faith, and I do not believe I should be noted for that. With all the information I had on hand, I, and the warden, resolved the situation as best as we could.