RealDonaldTrump - Staff Application 2.0

[Girdo]

Alrighty. Time to throw my two cents in.

First off, since I don't think anyone has actually clarified their bias yet, an unrelated player with a very similar ckey (AtRealDonaldTrump) stirred up a bunch of controversy among staff and players alike. That being said, you're an unrelated person, and something as petty as "his name sounds like someone else I don't like" should have absolutely no bearing on whether or not a staff application gets accepted. This part isn't my personal opinion, it's just fact.

Anyway, going back to my opinion, next issue that someone else brought up was the HRP as opposed to LRP experience in adminning. Personally, I came here from a Baystation-coded Heavy RP server called Soap Station. So did Cebutris. That was my only Citadel-related adminning experience, really; and I turned out fine here. I'd be more concerned about no experience as opposed to merely different experience; just having HRP admin experience is enough to satisfy me.

Your claim about your note history checks out. The ERP incidents were from march 2016, jan 2017, jan 2018. While you have other incidents, everything, really (including the ERP charges) aren't really surprising, and pretty much every player has the same. I don't really see any repeats of major incidents, which means at the very least, you've learned from past mistakes, which is good.

The one thing I can't personally attest to is your personality. I haven't had any incidents with you, positive or negative, really. I've interacted in-game with Jalen only briefly, so I can't really testify as to any behavior. That being said, that also means I haven't been witness to these alleged bouts of righteous indignation or anger. 

Overall, I'm willing to give this my support and a solid +1. On the off-chance that you're not a good fit, removing someone from moderator is indeed a thing. I see no compelling reason why you don't deserve at least a chance.


TL;DR I don't share concerns about 90% of your alleged issues, and I can't attest to your anger or lack thereof at all, so +1. Absolute worst case scenario we boot you out again.

[Raeschen]

I agree with girdo in that anyone showing bias because your name is similar to someone else's should fuck off

Personally though i don't really know you all that well, so kinda neutral on this.

[deathride58]

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I can tell that you're trying your hardest to make a good impression after making this application, but somehow... *Somehow*, within the week you've made your application, my impression of you has managed to go from "some random literally who that's a part of the here-for-the-RP crowd" to "some random person with a habit of ahelping over IC issues and a habit of throwing a fit when a ticket doesn't immediately go their way". And that's not to mention other issues that've been cropping up, such as your insulting and blaming of the entire staff team when criticized for your hotheadedness. I really do not see a good reason why someone that shittalks the staff team should have a place as a staff member, and I'm not the only staff member with that sentiment. You ahelping over IC issues and throwing a fit when tickets don't immediately go your way is something that's been brought to light in your previous application, something that I've recently had a first-hand experience with, and something that other staff members have experienced first-hand.

Due to the issues that've been cropping up and have been brought to light, my support's gone from a "-1 on the basis you *might* try to micromanage players" to "-1 due to your lack of self-restraint, hotheadedness, and other negative traits that leave a very bitter taste."

You do show some decent understanding of the game, though. You'd do well in a mentor position, but you really wouldn't do well as someone in control of punishments, notes, etc.


To elaborate a little on the most recent horror story involving you, you were recently affected in a case of overescalation in which you got demoted for refusing to respond to one single command. I had to spend 20 solid minutes explaining to the HoS that, no, one single minor mistake is not enough to get a Security Officer demoted to Assistant during Extended. I had to then spend a couple of minutes explaining to the Captain that the demotion wasn't valid at all. I gave the Captain five minutes to repromote you, as he was currently involved with a minor Security affair. Throughout the entire ordeal, you were standing completely still in front of the HoP office, ranting incessantly in LOOC (Something that I really should've noted you about, as that was a violation of our IC in OOC rules). I informed you that the Captain had five minutes to repromote you. Within those five minutes, you headed off to the dorms to ERP. When the Captain reached the HoP's office and requested that you drop by to get your repromotion, you ended up insulting him, and ranted about how they would "just look for another reason to re-demote me" via ahelp. That incident showed that you are hotheaded and impatient, two qualities that really do not mix well in a position of power. Two other staff members witnessed that incident, and can confirm everything that happened.

And the issues I've pointed out here are the same exact issues that caused your previous application to be denied.

So, yeah. Gonna have to give a solid -1 on this application. But as stated before, you would do alright as a mentor.

[ChayseRamsay]

So, let's just break down the situation here, and then you can tell me that I wasn't in the right to be mad about the whole affair. I ahelped as soon as I was being arrested and dragged to the HoP office for the demotion. Between you answering the ahelp and starting to speak to them, I had already been stripped entirely and set to entirely unassigned, then ditched outside the HoP office by the HoS who proceeded to run off with my gear. My PDA and ID had been left in the HoP office by the Captain, who had sealed the shutters. It took TWENTY minutes, as you said, to get the HoS and Captain to realise what they did wasn't okay, as you said yourself; all of which I was standing outside the HoP office. 

So yes, I had left in the end to do other things instead of waiting for the two people who are supposed to understand space law to understand what an admin was telling them about escalation. Cid has already gained a reputation for immediately jumping the gun in other rounds. Additionally, I insulted the captain ICly for demoting me on such flimsy reasoning, how exactly is this relevant to an application for staff? 

Also, "and ranted about how they would "just look for another reason to re-demote me" via ahelp." I don't consider 'ranting' to be saying once that there was no point in getting repromoted now as they'd be searching for another reason to demote me, then being asked by you to repeat it pretty much.

Also, the 'ranting in LOOC' was a detective and I talking about how dumb the entire thing was, as well as how it wasn't the first time it's happened. Yes, I should have probably been noted for it, but the Detective was in security for the ordeal as well so it's not like I was talking to somebody who had no idea what was going on.

"And that's not to mention other issues that've been cropping up, such as your insulting and blaming of the entire staff team when criticized for your hotheadedness." - What? When have I ever blamed the entire staff team?

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Look, I don't pretend that I don't get extremely tilted over situations that occur in game that shouldn't happen, especially on extended. I'm well aware that in the past two weeks I've had a couple of problems related to being hotheaded and I recognise that, I'm trying my hardest to alleviate these issues and I'm observing a lot more instead of playing. But it has to be taken into account that, as far as I'm aware, not at any point have I continued it into the next round, or been an absolute twat on the discord to people as a result. I've followed the doctrine of the next round clean slate, and Dankseed/Cash Radar can easily vouch for that. I'm trying to get more people to put comments in on my application, be they positive or negative, because I honestly want to help out as a staff member and I honestly want to be given a chance to show that I'm not a massive asshole who gets mad over a situation that isn't occuring to me, as seems to be insinuated repeatedly.

If you honestly don't believe I can be given a chance, then so be it. But as Girdo has mentioned, moderators can just as easily be demoted from their position if they turn out to not be a good fit.

[Cabbose]

Am I the only one here that played enough to remember this guy, or that he used to be staff? Or was that a different RealDonaldTrump? I'm pretty sure this is the same guy. He was a donator and good enough to get staff once, what changed?

(And no, I'm not talking about me.)

[Ruby Flamewing]

The only "RealDonaldTrump" we've had on staff was you, Cabbose. And I think we all know how that went.

If we had another "RealDonaldTrump" on staff, then holy hell they must've lasted minutes because I never heard of 'em.

Also, donator doesn't give any perks or creds towards anything. It just means you wanted to donate money to help keep a server you like going while the host slaves away at a job that lately has a habit of saying "you gotta come in on your only day off to work" minutes before the day prior ends. That's all that is. Yes, you can get a little item sprited and added in, if you want, as a show of gratitude for making keeping the server going for another month easier, but that's basically it: you're *donating* to something you *like.* Kind of like subscribing to someone on Twitch, I suppose, is an okay example?
So no, being a donator doesn't contribute to staff positions, it's just a show of gratitude. As for if they were staff here before, it was before my time, which if true, then whew, I need to be brought up to speed on past events. But I'm staying on the fence regarding this application, I feel as if I can't say 'no' or 'yes' with absolute certainty. However, giving them a chance, after all, may not be entirely a *bad* move - as Girdo said, if proven incapable of the hell that is moderator, can step down or in the event of abuse of power and role, can be revoked. So...I suppose that leans more towards 'yes' with the clear understanding that "this is a test of character and capability" first and foremost.

...Kind of what moderator is, honestly. So I don't know why I need to lay clear that part of being moderator.


Does this count as a 'yes', then? I feel like I'm failing with my words here.

[cebutris]

Honestly this has gone both ways and I'm not even sure myself. I'll throw an official admin vote up and depending on that I'll officially close or deny this.

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Democracy applied. Democracy says no.

Application denied

[ProgRock]

Honestly this has gone both ways and I'm not even sure myself. I'll throw an official admin vote up and depending on that I'll officially close or deny this.

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Democracy applied. Democracy says no.

Application denied

You sure you can't give him a ninety day trial period or something?

[cebutris]

No.