Considering somehow I missed the glass table and only saw the HoS being pushed in the logs, the note will be removed as no one was seriuosly hurt. Scarlett was the original ahelper.
However, I still stand by my actions for the other rounds as a player.
Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
I wrote on my initial post this happened on several rounds. Decided to write about one where I was atmos.
Round started, peopel told me to as atmos, setup solars and whatnot. I did.
Then told me to go kill all rats on maintenance... and while I was preparing to do so, and even found broken wires, there was a carp random event, and the station maintenance walls were made of glass, resulted into tons of carps inside maintenance.
So I grabbed the fireaxe, didn't knew at the time (I learned at the end of the round) that welder is good weapon too.
Also didn't knew how to use the fireaxe either... I was holding it with one hand, and holding a oxygen tank in the other.
I ended dead multiple times... losing fights against carps and whatnot.
So, during one of these times, I was just leaving medbay, after the doctor told me how to use the axe correctly (that I needed to usei t two handed), when the mime named "Le Edge", stole the axe.
I explained multiple times I needed the axe to fix maintenance (that now had holes and was venting air! and still full of carps!), but all I got as reply was that I deserved to lose axe since I had it with me in the hallway and I sucked at robosting.
I nagged security non-stop to get axe back, they didn't.
Le Edge later broke into robotics, and stole Brandon's (roboticist) ID.
When I complained on OOC and to admins, Fractious said it was ok, because Le Edge was attacking anyone with the axe, and used hacking tools to get to brandon, instead of using the axe.
The drama with the axe just kept escalating, escalating, escalating, until Brandon snapped, got brigged, and used a robot on the brig and got banned.
Frankly, I blame his ban entirely on the "Le Edge" mime that kept provoking him and me with the axe, I really had a real reason to use the axe, he stole the axe, and security refused to arrest him, and Fractious said he could steal the axe and not be punished just beause he wasn't actually using the axe to attack people... only using other things to attack people (like invisible-walling me in a room with no air and getting me killed, and not getting punished for self-antagging like that).
Round started, peopel told me to as atmos, setup solars and whatnot. I did.
Then told me to go kill all rats on maintenance... and while I was preparing to do so, and even found broken wires, there was a carp random event, and the station maintenance walls were made of glass, resulted into tons of carps inside maintenance.
So I grabbed the fireaxe, didn't knew at the time (I learned at the end of the round) that welder is good weapon too.
Also didn't knew how to use the fireaxe either... I was holding it with one hand, and holding a oxygen tank in the other.
I ended dead multiple times... losing fights against carps and whatnot.
So, during one of these times, I was just leaving medbay, after the doctor told me how to use the axe correctly (that I needed to usei t two handed), when the mime named "Le Edge", stole the axe.
I explained multiple times I needed the axe to fix maintenance (that now had holes and was venting air! and still full of carps!), but all I got as reply was that I deserved to lose axe since I had it with me in the hallway and I sucked at robosting.
I nagged security non-stop to get axe back, they didn't.
Le Edge later broke into robotics, and stole Brandon's (roboticist) ID.
When I complained on OOC and to admins, Fractious said it was ok, because Le Edge was attacking anyone with the axe, and used hacking tools to get to brandon, instead of using the axe.
The drama with the axe just kept escalating, escalating, escalating, until Brandon snapped, got brigged, and used a robot on the brig and got banned.
Frankly, I blame his ban entirely on the "Le Edge" mime that kept provoking him and me with the axe, I really had a real reason to use the axe, he stole the axe, and security refused to arrest him, and Fractious said he could steal the axe and not be punished just beause he wasn't actually using the axe to attack people... only using other things to attack people (like invisible-walling me in a room with no air and getting me killed, and not getting punished for self-antagging like that).
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
I don't get why you keep bringing up this situation Altheor, I've legit explained it two times to you already.
You were walking with a fireaxe on a greenshift, with zero reason IC. Which exposed you to my pranks. I won't lie that I was sure you were just walking around with axe for fun.
And you're mixing the Brandon issue with the axe event, which are two totally different situations, buddy.Â
Note that I didn't knew you were a new player either.
As you said, I never used the axe to harm anyone, I just stole it to prank you for walking around in the halls with one.
You were walking with a fireaxe on a greenshift, with zero reason IC. Which exposed you to my pranks. I won't lie that I was sure you were just walking around with axe for fun.
And you're mixing the Brandon issue with the axe event, which are two totally different situations, buddy.Â
Note that I didn't knew you were a new player either.
As you said, I never used the axe to harm anyone, I just stole it to prank you for walking around in the halls with one.
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
So what makes wrong for atmos use axe (with permission of the AI no less, the AI itself opened the axe case for me, I didn't broke the case to get the axe), and is ok for the mime to run around with the axe?Fractious wrote: I don't get why you keep bringing up this situation Altheor, I've legit explained it two times to you already.
You were walking with a fireaxe on a greenshift, with zero reason IC. Which exposed you to my pranks. I won't lie that I was sure you were just walking around with axe for fun.
And you're mixing the Brandon issue with the axe event, which are two totally different situations, buddy.Â
Note that I didn't knew you were a new player either.
As you said, I never used the axe to harm anyone, I just stole it to prank you for walking around in the halls with one.
Doesn't this go to the point I am trying to make, that admins are allowed to keep "pranking" when they shouldn't?
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
Dude, i'm no admin or anything and I was just curious about this post, but seriously i'm pretty sure Fractious didn't mean to kill you or self-antag. Also, it was an harmless prank that killed no one. ( Except the invisible wall with no air, pretty sure that was a mistake ). You should just let that go down and... you know, bury the war axe <-- Get the pun here?Altheor wrote:So what makes wrong for atmos use axe (with permission of the AI no less, the AI itself opened the axe case for me, I didn't broke the case to get the axe), and is ok for the mime to run around with the axe?Fractious wrote: I don't get why you keep bringing up this situation Altheor, I've legit explained it two times to you already.
You were walking with a fireaxe on a greenshift, with zero reason IC. Which exposed you to my pranks. I won't lie that I was sure you were just walking around with axe for fun.
And you're mixing the Brandon issue with the axe event, which are two totally different situations, buddy.Â
Note that I didn't knew you were a new player either.
As you said, I never used the axe to harm anyone, I just stole it to prank you for walking around in the halls with one.
Doesn't this go to the point I am trying to make, that admins are allowed to keep "pranking" when they shouldn't?
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
Hi again,
I honestly don't even know how you lacked air in the room I locked you in, it didn't had any breaches or anything and was quite safe. Stellar told me you had some oxygen damage, but didn't died, so I guess it's true? Sorry about that... But seriously doing an harmless prank as mime is totally fine, admin or not and I thought, as stated already, that you were just walking around with an axe for no reason.
I honestly don't even know how you lacked air in the room I locked you in, it didn't had any breaches or anything and was quite safe. Stellar told me you had some oxygen damage, but didn't died, so I guess it's true? Sorry about that... But seriously doing an harmless prank as mime is totally fine, admin or not and I thought, as stated already, that you were just walking around with an axe for no reason.
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RE: Complaint against admins and old players disrupting sec for "memes"
Huh... the room you locked me in, is why I needed the axe, carps made tons of holes in it. The walls of the maintenance nearby there is made of glass, carps broke inside, I needed axe to fix it (kill the carps and open doors, although I didn't knew axe had been nerfed, neither that the welder can kill carps very well too)Fractious wrote: Hi again,
I honestly don't even know how you lacked air in the room I locked you in, it didn't had any breaches or anything and was quite safe. Stellar told me you had some oxygen damage, but didn't died, so I guess it's true? Sorry about that... But seriously doing an harmless prank as mime is totally fine, admin or not and I thought, as stated already, that you were just walking around with an axe for no reason.
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