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Name of person complained about: Jade Manique

Date and time: 10/10/2018, RP server, about 1:45-2:00am eastern TZ

Complaint regarding:
Bussing in an antag in extended, giving them an OP weapon to push their objective with, then bussing the SM crystal off the ejection pad so the players couldn't eject it to thwart the antag. Then muting deadchat so they didn't have to hear the complaints of everyone killed by all this.

The rest of this is a direct copy/paste of my byond logs because I don't know how to do anything fancy with it.

[Common] Esku Gestusny says, "I'm stopping the humming crystal."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "Um."
Ty Clarke says, "I'm so fuckin offended dude."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "No.. NO."
Norher asks, "I guess you got an excuse man, but if you're in one can you really feel your cheeks?"
 [Common] Carter Baskett asks, "...Humming what?"
 [Common] Esku Gestusny shouts, "GWAAAAAAAARRRHHH!"
Brian Ski says, "I.. sort of understand it, but Ars really gets it."
Ty Clarke says, "I'm out here, wheelchair bound."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "ENGINEERING NOW"
 [Common] Amethyst says, "Uh oh."
 [Common] Arrivals Announcement Computer states, "Sayuri Ru, Visitor, has arrived on the tram."
Jasper Jenner says, "Should fuck him up, wheels."
 [Common] Carter Baskett says, "Oh motherfucker"
 [Common] Ty Clarke says, "And you're gonna be like this."
Ty Clarke talks into the radio headset
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "ENGINEERING ONW"
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "HE'S AFTER THE ENGINE."
Ty Clarke says, "I'm so upset I'm just.."
 [Common] Carter Baskett says, "Jesus christ"
Brian Ski says, "To the point where we need.."
Brian Ski says, "Wat"
The wheelchair has been hit by Ty Clarke with PDA-Ty Clarke (Visitor).
The wheelchair has been hit by Ty Clarke with PDA-Ty Clarke (Visitor).
Nikolai Blackfur asks, "What?"
Natalie Drake says, "Sshit"
Ty Clarke unbuckled themselves!
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord asks, "Status?"
Jasper Jenner says, "He's talking mad shit. I don't think he can back it up though."
Damien Coltyrix asks, "So I take it you're new, slimeguy?"
 Ty Clarke attempted to disarm Norher!
Brian Ski says, "Someone yelling for engineering"
Norher says, "Well hold on man, I'm-"
Norher says, "Whoa man, he can walk."
Ty Clarke says, "Uncool man."
The quantum pad has been hit by Nikolai Blackfur with the glass of whiskey.
The quantum pad has been hit by Nikolai Blackfur with the glass of whiskey.
Ty Clarke says, "Some action is occuring."
Norher shrugs.
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord says, "LEMME IN"
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "Engineering 1, broken window"
 [Common] Brian Ski says, "Enroute"
Rose Lacon startles awake from the seeming sleep she found herself in moments ago, looking up to Nat in a bit of worry. "w-whats up?" she asks groggily.
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "The windows were definitely him."
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord says, "That whole room is radioactive."
Natalie Drake says, "Ssssomeone isss trying to sssabatoge the ssupermatter engine."
 [Common] Amethyst asks, "How did he break them so fast?"
Natalie Drake says, "Issss ssssafe with me."
Rose Lacon says, "O-oh.. thats.. not good i-is it.."
Natalie Drake says, "Iss very bad."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "I don't see visible damage in engineering."
 [Common] Sayuri Ru asks, "Everything alright up there?"
 [Common] Zooish Oozish says, "Zec guy I found your dog."
Rose Lacon asks, "A-are we heading home th-then?"
 [Common] Natalie Drake says, "Issss the crysstal in danger for real? Becaussse if iss I would like to go home."
Natalie Drake says, "Issss the crysstal in danger for real? Becaussse if iss I would like to go home."
 [Common] Facility PA states, "Attention! Security level elevated to blue: The station has received reliable information about possible hostile activity on the station. Security staff may have weapons visible, random searches are permitted."
Natalie Drake says, "... Yessss, yesss we are."
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (Site Manager) states, "Priority Announcement: There's a possible security incident related to the engine. Please standby."
 [Common] Natalie Drake says, "Ssee you tomorrow then."
Natalie Drake says, "Ssee you tomorrow then."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "Okay so what's going on is an explorer is continously talking about a humming crystal, and I saw him go to engineering, heard him scream over radio, and now there's two smashed windows into engineering."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson says, "He said he had to stop the humming crystal."
 [Common] Zooish Oozish asks, "Anyone know who'z dog zis iz?"
 [Common] Travel Oversight (follow) states, "Rose Lacon, Intern, has departed on the tram."
The Tram Station 's speakers chime, anouncing a tram has arrived to take Rose Lacon to the colony.
 [Common] Travel Oversight (follow) states, "Natalie Drake, Off-duty Engineer, has departed on the tram."
The Tram Station 's speakers chime, anouncing a tram has arrived to take Natalie Drake to the colony.
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "The SM crystal resonates."
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) asks, "Is anyone looking at the crystal issue?"
 [Common] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Checking the rest of engineering"
Now following Brian Ski
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "If it's an otie named, "Otis" please take care of him."
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) says, "Ah yez your dog."
  The ghost of Rio-Haan now lurks among the dead. 
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) says, "Iz following me."
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Yeah he does that."
Wilenia (follow) asks, "Whats happening?"
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) asks, "Iz he planning on eating me?"
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) asks, "Micheal?"
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Probably not, don't break any laws just in case."
 [Security] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "Who's hoverpod is outside?"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Esku Gestusny is the person of interest"
 [Common] Cryogenic Oversight (follow) states, "Rio-Haan, Shaft Miner, has entered long-term storage."
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) says, "Of courze I won't break lawz I am good perzon."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "They're believed to have some sort of mental issue related to the expedition they went on, and so they want to touch the engine."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Obviously if they get in there, it's gonna be bad."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Please find this person, restrain them if needed, and take them to medical for evaluation"
 [Security] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Roger dodger."
 [Security] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Y'all pay real close attention to cams and alarms."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "CE keep a close eye on the engine until this person is found"
 [Command] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Agreed"
 [Security] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "I'm gonna start looking in maint."
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) asks, "Anyone know the whereabouts of my gun?"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Well."
Now following Brian Ski
 [Security] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "Has someone been EVA'ing?"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Not sure"
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Hrm"
 [Common] Esku Gestusny (follow) hollers, "HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGH!!!!"
Wilenia (follow) says, "Nothing really."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "Uh"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "Think that's enough time to put any of the parts in ARS?"
Wilenia (follow) says, "Oh no.."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "What?"
Wilenia twitches.
Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "He's.. he's at it again.."
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Tram will be called in 5, arrives 10 after that."
 [Common] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A !!SECURITY ALERT!! lower brig"
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Oh boy"
 [Common] Ty Clarke (follow) asks, "What is happening?"
Brian Ski puts the glass shard into the industrial backpack.
Brian Ski puts the glass shard into the industrial backpack.
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "Esku lost it."
Brian Ski puts the jaws of life into the chief engineer's toolbelt.
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Medical is prepping for possible SM explosion."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "They're acting ljust like the Pathfinder."
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Central Command - Anomaly Alert: A solar storm has been detected approaching NSB Adephagia. Please halt all EVA activites immediately and return to the interior of the station."
 [Common] Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "ENGINE"
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "Aye... And that"
 [Common] Ty Clarke (follow) says, "Hrm."
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) asks, "He is at the engine again?"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Girl, stop"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Back up"
 [Engineering] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "How are we looking there Brian?"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "STAY BACK!!!!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Brian, back up"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Nobody here wants to hurt you"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "THIS CRYSTAL MUST BE REMOVED!!!!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "Why?"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Im thinking we need to bump this up to red alert"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "IT OFFENDS...ME!!!!"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Esku is in here"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "THE HUMMING...WON'T STOP!!!!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Brian"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Prepare to eject the crystal."
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Okay"
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A whispers something.
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "...Jesus, just as I finish a quick report to CC about the expedition."
Unknown nods.
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "BUT...MORE...!!!"
  Rush430: Wow, don't you just love these extended rounds? No antags, it's nice
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "More what?"
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) says, "Got a hole in the bottom stairs of security. just saw the Synthetic atmos tech walk up the brig stairs and pointed me to the opening. standing by to watch over brig and note any missing equipment"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Central Command - Anomaly Alert: The solar storm has reached the station. Please refain from EVA and remain inside the station until it has passed."
 [Common] Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "It's radioactive."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "DO NOT EJECT IT!!!!"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "REMOVE IT!!!!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Okay.   Okay."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "What do you mean remove it?"
Nikolai Blackfur makes calm gestures, keeping his paws up
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) blubbers, "oh no Brian didnt eject properly"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "REMOVE IT FROM IT'S CHAMBER...AND RETURN IT!!!!"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Priority Announcement: A scheduled crew transfer to the Virgo-3B Colony is occuring. The tram will be arriving shortly. Those departing should proceed to the Orange Line tram station within 7 minutes."
 [Common] NT Automated Tram (follow) states, "Automated Tram departing NSB Adephagia for Virgo-3B Colony on routine transfer route."
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Oh."
 [Common] Tether Space Control (follow) states, "Automated Tram, cleared to complete routine transfer from NSB Adephagia to Virgo-3B Colony."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "TO THE PLANET YOU MINED IT FROM!!!!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "Return it where?"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A to control, requesting permision to vent primary reactor core TID0564EMCIRT04/LS/LS/LS"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) yells, "Wait!"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "STAY BACK!!!!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Easy there."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "I'll open the door when you need to come out"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Everyone is calm"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "But i dont have rad gear, so i wont be going in"
Mordecai Gayelord puts the emergency supply box into the black dufflebag.
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "No one is shooting"
  Rush430 (Natalie Drake) moans, "Actually, I don't think he did it at all. It moved the wrong direction."
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A to control, venting"
Michael Daudson holsters the stun revolver.
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Buddy."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Put the weapon down, and toss it over here."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "I HAVE NO WEAPON!!!!"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) complains, "he didnt open the vent, it hit the hatch and bounced back"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) asks, "Ready for eject?"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) whines, "I moved it, because ejectign it deletes it. I wanna see how this goes. :o"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "I HAVE WHAT THE ALTAR GAVE ME!!!!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "Then who fired the laser?"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "We know, we know."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "NOW REMOVE THIS CRYSTAL!!!!"
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A has vented the crystal."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Just stay calm"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) blubbers, "lol"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Look mister, you can't be touching that thing."
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) yells, "SAy when!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "One, on account it's not there now."
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A response to control, please hold."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "You want to stay calm.  We can talk about this."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Two, it'll kill you."
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Confirmed"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) complains, "I want him to touch it and get dusted"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "I CAN SEE IT CLEARLY!!!!"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) laments, ":3"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Why dont' you just lay down on the ground."
 [Common] Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Evacuate the station to the planet."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "JUST BEHIND THAT DOOR!!!!"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Central Command - Anomaly Alert: The solar storm has passed the station. It is now safe to resume EVA activities. Please report to medbay if you experience any unusual symptoms."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "And we can talk about this?"
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "What's going on"
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "Blacked out"
  Rush430 (Natalie Drake) blubbers, "I want there to stop being antags in extended rounds, but neither of us are getting what we want "
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) asks, "Are we about to blow up?"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) exclaims, "Unit 4-5-A !!ALERT!!, core is off center ejection system offline!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "I'm gonna walk over to you real slow ok?"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Use the qpads, bottom right one."
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Blackfur while i appreciate your sentimentality the issue is under control."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Of course we can.  Esku  here doesn't like the humming."
 [Common] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Evacuate to lower"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "DO NOT GET CLOSER!!!!"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) asks, "Eject now?"
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Though yes for now please work your way to the tram"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Mister."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Or ma'am."
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A to control, unable to eject core has moved."
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Oh"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Everyone on station level come to the park."
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Well then"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "THis aint' the time nor place to discuss things."
 [Engineering] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Brilliant"
  Rush430: Jade bussed it off the pad
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) says, "Going to call everyone on the asteriod to get out of the place"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "Now, stay very still and I'm gonna walk over to you and we can talk near face to face ok?"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "NO.!!!"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) hollers, "OPEN THIS DOOR!!!!"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) asks, "How did the core move?"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "I WILL GRAB IT MYSELF!!!!"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Asteroid one center, come on folks."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) asks, "What're you going to do wtih it, Esku?"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) asks, "Ok ok, here, let me come over there and open it alright?"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A to control, possible pressure release when ejection doors set to open."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "ENGINEER!!!!"
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (Site Manager) (follow) states, "Priority Announcement: If you're on the asteroid please work your way down to the surface in a calm and orderly fashion. The engine is stable for now and shouldn't explode any time soon though the risk of it is still present."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "COME OPEN THIS!!!!"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "THE REST OF YOU!!!!"
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unable to comply."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!!!"
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Room is vented."
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "Danger! Crystal hyperstructure instability! Integrity at 89%"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "THEN SHUT THE VENT!!!!"
 [Engineering] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Ah boy here we go"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "There's no more crystal."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "You are hallucinating mister."
 [Common] Brian Ski (follow) says, "EVACUATE THE ENGINE ROOOM NOW"
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "Danger! Crystal hyperstructure instability! Integrity at 79%"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "...Okay everyone just use the Science quantum pad if you need a quick out."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "I. CAN. SEE. IT. CLEARLY!!!!"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) asks, "Ars can  you close the vent please?"
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) yells, "Unit 4-5-A engine failure inprogress!"
 [Engineering] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Get those officers out iwth you"
 [Engineering] Brian Ski (follow) says, "Oh wait I may be able to"
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "Danger! Crystal hyperstructure instability! Integrity at 69%"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "SHUT THE VENT, OR SOMEONE DROPS!!!!"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "Unit 4-5-A vents shut."
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "The vent is shut"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Ok Esku, you have ten seconds to comply"
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "Danger! Crystal hyperstructure instability! Integrity at 59%"
The pipe has been hit by ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A with PDA-ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (Atmospheric Technician).
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "Okay"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "We're leaving"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "After that, I can't really promise what'll happen."
 [Common] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Evacuate the station immediately delamination is about 50%"
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Medical is ready incase we need to go up for retrieval."
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "CRYSTAL DELAMINATION IMMINENT. Integrity at 49%"
 [Common] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "WARNING: SUPERMATTER CRYSTAL DELAMINATION IMMINENT!"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) says, "ARS-A, blow the crystal out if you can"
Mordecai Gayelord draws the stun revolver, pointing it at the ground.
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) shouts, "Failure inprogress!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Ten."
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) roars, "OPEN THIS!!!!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Nine"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "NOW!!!!"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Eight."
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) exclaims, "Now!"
Michael Daudson draws the stun revolver, pointing it at the ground.
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Seven."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Six."
 [Engineering] Supermatter Monitor (follow) states, "CRYSTAL DELAMINATION IMMINENT. Integrity at 44%"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Five."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Four."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Three"
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Evac now"
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Two."
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "If anyone requires help getting down, now would be the time."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "One."
Mordecai Gayelord aims the stun revolver at Unknown!
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Use the quantum pads."
Mordecai Gayelord (follow) says, "Do not move."
Michael Daudson aims the stun revolver at Unknown!
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Evac"
Michael Daudson pulls the trigger reflexively!
Michael Daudson lowers the stun revolver.
The electrode misses Unknown narrowly!
Michael Daudson seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless...
Mordecai Gayelord lowers the stun revolver.
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) exclaims, "Run!"
Brian Ski (follow) says, "Oof"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) shouts, "Unit 4-5-A to control, pumping in N2!"
  Mordecai Gayelord no longer skulks in the realm of the dead. They now occupy their body again.
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A puts the wrench into the tool-belt.
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) asks, "Uh Mekhi?"
Esku Gestusny(as Unknown) (follow) yells, "OPEN THAT DOOR RIGHT NOW!!!!"
 [Common] Nikolai Blackfur (follow) exclaims, "Run!"
Unknown screams!
 [Medical] Mekhi Anderson (follow) asks, "Yes?"
The electrode misses Unknown narrowly!
Unknown slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting.
Unknown screams!
*click click*
*click click*
*click click*
ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A has pushed Unknown!
Unknown slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting.
Brian Ski seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless...
The life crystal begins flashing red.
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) asks, "Hey, got Jane doe here. potential concern?"
The life crystal shatters into dust!
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "I'm reading deceased up there. I- holy shit."
  Brian Ski (follow) moans, "Idiot, it's gonna blow"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Like. I. Said. Quantum pads are faster."
Unknown is trying to remove Brian Ski's Brian Ski's ID Card (Chief Engineer)!
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) asks, "We can't get to them can we?"
 [Security] Ebony Smeralda (follow) asks, "Or all good?"
  Brian Ski (follow) laments, "Oof"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) blubbers, "i deleted the actual crystal"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) whines, "nah it got deleted and replaced"
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) asks, "WHo and what died?"
Nikolai Blackfur (follow) exclaims, "GIRL!  ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER, RUN!"
 [Medical] Tameron Snow (follow) asks, "Casualty report?"
  Brian Ski (follow) blubbers, "Why did admins fuck with ejection?"
 [Medical] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "My faith in the engineering team"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) blubbers, "which is pretty dumb"
 [Common] Esku Gestusny (follow) hollers, "AAAAAAARRRGH!!!!"
Brian Ski smashes through the reinforced borosilicate window!
The reinforced borosilicate window shatters!
Brian Ski kicks the the grille!
Brian Ski kicks the the grille!
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) asks, "You had faith?"
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Two sec, and an unknown in the engineering area on station."
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "Damn"
  Brian Ski (follow) blubbers, "WHY did you block the one thing I could do?"
Esku Gestusny(as Brian Ski) (follow) hollers, "BACK!!!!"
  Brian Ski (follow) laments, "so then I just ended up sitting out the RP? "
 [Medical] Tameron Snow (follow) asks, "How are they managing this much resistance?"
  Brian Ski (follow) complains, "wtf"
  emitter
Brian Ski slams into a reinforced plasteel wall!
  Brian Ski (follow) complains, "for nothing"
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) says, "Oh no. I know how they died."
  Brian Ski (follow) whines, "I sat in that fucking room for nothing"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) whines, "whew"
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) says, "It was the luanatic."
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) says, "UNit 4-5-A door controls destroyed"
 [Common] Solace Fasult (follow) asks, "Did ya eject it?"
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "AN explosion, or... Ah."
  Brian Ski (follow) complains, "Do you understand?"
Brian Ski collapses!
 [Common] Jathok Muu'rn (follow) says, "Heard boom."
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) complains, "I actually swapped it out before it could start delaminating."
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Noted, stated for the record regardless."
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) asks, "Is it too late to save them?"
  Brian Ski (follow) laments, "I play to play the RP not to sit it out"
 [Engineering] ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A (follow) yells, "Unit 4-5-A SM IS BEING MOVED!"
Brian Ski has grabbed ARS-A-Research Atmospheric Assembly 4-5-A passively!
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) laments, "Just a few seconds before people aimed at him."
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) whines, "gg i'm going to sleep"
  Brian Ski (follow) complains, "I could have ejected it tho?"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
 [Engineering] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "The hell? By who?"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) whines, "hmm?"
  Brian Ski (follow) laments, "Ihat was like the ONE thing I could do?"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
  Brian Ski (follow) laments, "why would you take that away from me?"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) moans, "what is this laser he has"
 [Common] Esku Gestusny (follow) stammers, "T-TH-HE C-CR-RY-YS-ST-TAL-L IS-S MIN-NE!!!!"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) moans, "what's going on"
 [Common] Jathok Muu'rn (follow) says, "Doubt."
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "...He's dying."
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) asks, "Huh?"
  Rush430 (Natalie Drake) complains, "The laser is adminbussed too"
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) laments, "some big meme"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
 [Common] Jasper Jenner (follow) shouts, "YOU GET THEM BIG FELLA!"
  Rush430 (Natalie Drake) laments, "Jade basically did this whole thing"
  Brian Ski (follow) blubbers, "admin cockblocked me"
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) blubbers, "rofl"
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) says, "Keep doing you."
 [Common] Esku Gestusny (follow) stutters, "R-RAAAAAAAARG-GH!!!!"
 [Medical] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "Is assistance n-"
 [Common] Ty Clarke (follow) says, "That's a shitty thing to say."
 [Explorer] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "...Esku, I'm sorry."
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) whines, "Nice event Jade, top quality RP"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "Officers?"
 [Common] Jasper Jenner (follow) yells, "YOU LEGEND!"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) moans, "bonus points cause we have like no medbay"
  Brian Ski (follow) moans, "wasn't enough to intere with my relationship  XD"
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) says, "I will go up there I suppose."
  Rush430 (Natalie Drake) blubbers, "Because apparently RP is too boring"
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks as it starts cooling the room.
 [Common] Ty Clarke (follow) says, "Mekhi people here are assholes."
The Engine Room Air Alarm clicks quietly as it stops heating the room.
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "This Esku fellow has killed two officers."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "He's now to be killed on site, understood?"
 [Common] Jasper Jenner (follow) says, "Stop shooting you dog."
  The ghost of Dr.Dreidel now creeps among the dead. 
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "Ow."
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) complains, "already had one badmin deadminned today, must be going for a new record :^)"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) complains, "Only thing I did was prevent deletion of the SM, and mass damage by an actual SM. The people that died attacked first."
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) slobbers, "DUnt ShooT Ze DoGz'."
 [Medical] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Casualty report is now four instead of three. The latest is alive but badly burned."
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "Security?"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) complains, "and to think i was going to ahelp this"
 [Common] Jasper Jenner (follow) says, "That shit nearly took my head off."
  Brian Ski (follow) complains, "I was ready to eject it"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) asks, "Brian?"
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "In fairness, I didn't attack him "
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "Oh well"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) complains, "i only aimed at him, he opened fire"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Carter."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "I need you in your office"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) laments, "no-word, opened fire"
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) asks, "...Got it?"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Like, ASAP"
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) says, "He's here."
  Knightfall5 (Ashley Kifer) (follow) complains, "admin bussed powers, dragging an SM around, shooting everyone"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) complains, "with a fucking OP admeme weapon"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "The entire security team is dead"
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "THis doesn't seem.."
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "Also, Ars, you silly, siilly girl   Not listening to your administrator~!"
 [Medical] Amethyst (follow) says, "He killed brian."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Tell me when you're ready to swipe"
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) asks, "He killed Brian too?"
 [Medical] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Fucking hell"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Priority Announcement: The scheduled Orange Line tram to the Virgo-3B Colony has arrived. It will depart in approximately 3 minutes."
 [Medical] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "He's DRAGGING THE CRYSTAL."
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) slobbers, "Iz h'erE!"
 [Medical] Tameron Snow (follow) asks, "He killed who?"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) blubbers, "Smh. You guys raise weapons at an obvious antag and get upset when the antag robusts you."
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) complains, "gg i can't see anything going on cause i'm still in my body"
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Ready."
 [Medical] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "AMYTHYST, GET TO THE"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Attention! Code red!: There is an immediate serious threat to the station. Security may have weapons unholstered at all times. Random searches are allowed and advised."
 [Common] Tether Space Control (follow) states, "Rerouting traffic away from NSB Adephagia."
 [Medical] Jim Sanders (follow) asks, "He's... Dragging an SM crystal?"
 [Common] Ty Clarke (follow) says, "Get on down here boys."
  Durst22 (Monica Calimotsky) (follow) complains, ">robusts"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Again, for an ERT"
  Mordecai Gayelord (follow) moans, "fuck off jade you gave them an OP gun, eat my entire ass lmao"
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Alright"
 [Medical] Tameron Snow (follow) asks, "Do I need to assist?"
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "Ready."
Deadchat has been globally disabled!
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) asks, "...Did it go through?"
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "I mean, I think it played out fine"
 [Common] Mekhi Anderson (follow) says, "I've disabled the elevator."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "It..."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Im not sure"
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "I'm a tiny bit salty about being shot in the back after trying to talk him down, but oh well"
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "I aint gonna spam it though"
Deadchat is globally muted.
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) says, "Good job mekhi."
 [Command] Carter Baskett (follow) asks, "...Should we evac on the tram?"
 [Common] Zooish Oozish (follow) slurs, "I Du noT zink zE exploziun will tahke ze elevatOR."
 [Command] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Yes"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) laments, "I gave him instructions. Attack only in self defense, and dont persue those unarmed."
  GAMEADMIN(PolymorphBlue) says, "I know what you told him "
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) laments, "I think I clarified the pursuit instruction after he chased you, cix"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) moans, "vix*"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "guys"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "if we disable dchat"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "maybe don't converse in it ourselves"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "I will clarify though"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "He had eye lasers. It isn't a gun."
 [Common] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) yells, "SM on the first floor!"
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "It's something the wishgranter gives"
 [Common] Jim Sanders (follow) exclaims, "SM CRYSTAL IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR!"
 [Common] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) yells, "CLEAR IT OUT!"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) asks, "What?"
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) asks, "What?"
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) says, "Uh oh."
 [Common] Tameron Snow (follow) asks, "What?"
 [Common] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) exclaims, "THE FUCKING CRYSTAL IS HERE!"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "The SM is on the first floor"
 [Security] McKenzie Ludwig (follow) says, "Do not let it onto the tram"
 [Common] Carter Baskett (follow) says, "QUANTUM PADS, IN THE PARK, NOW."
 [Common] Amethyst (follow) asks, "Did 'brian bring it?"
  PolymorphBlue (Nikolai Blackfur) (follow|body) complains, "Tsk.  Ars."
  GAMEADMIN(Kevinz000) says, "A wishgranter was spawned on V4, which normally gives you murderbone objectives, but it was changed, and I'll leave it at that until round end (also my involvement is purely IC, as part of the team who went to V4.)"
  Jade Manique (Sylas Ahura) (follow|body) blubbers, "But yeah. If you raised arms toward the antag and got robusted by the antag in retaliation, you forfeit all right to complain about dying."
 [Common] Jathok Muu'rn (follow) says, "Forgot to cut power to pad."
 [Common] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "Ues"
 [Common] Facility PA (follow) states, "Priority Announcement: The Orange Line tram has left the station. Estimate 2 minutes until the tram arrives at Virgo-3B Colony."
 [Common] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "The ID says that is Brian."
You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Unknown (as Michael Daudson).
 [Common] Jim Sanders (follow) says, "I'll be using the teleporter to get out"
 [Common] Joseph Nikolatz (follow) says, "Yeah, fuck that shit."

Sigh.

Rush430 wrote: Name of person complained about: Jade Manique

Date and time: 10/10/2018, RP server, about 1:45-2:00am eastern TZ

Complaint regarding:
Bussing in an antag in extended, giving them an OP weapon to push their objective with, then bussing the SM crystal off the ejection pad so the players couldn't eject it to thwart the antag. Then muting deadchat so they didn't have to hear the complaints of everyone killed by all this.

Sigh.

1. Bussing in an antag in extended.

Everyone voted for how antags were to be handled. Secret rounds are admin curated. I oversaw the whole ordeal and instructed the antag on how to proceed, and advised their ideas towards something more RP friendly.

2. Giving them an OP weapon.
I didnt give them a weapon. They were a wishgranter avatar, of which there were three or four witnesses to the wishgranter, and they were called out as having been in contact with it, and unstable. There was build up before noisy villainy.

3. Bussing the SM off the pad.
I did this, yes. And I also swapped the proper SM out for a non harmful replica, icon var edited to look like the crystal. this was to prevent delamination and irradiation. An attempt by myself to enable further RP. Ejecting the SM, in my eyes, would have validated proper murderbone, as well as cut off RP leading toward its acquisition. It wouldnt have been fun.

4. Muting DChat.
We're supposed to, if DChat gets too rowdy with riled tempers. Its to calm people down. People were spouting insults and the such, so I muted dchat to establish what I had done, and clarify misconceptions. After the fact, it was unmuted and people were allowed to speak.


Frankly, you werent even involved with any ounce of this situation. You even admitted to leaving the round to not be affected by the antag. Why are you complaining?

The wishgranter avatar gets laser vision, which is unmaintained and broken code. It's a rapid fire laser carbine that fires as fast as you can click, with no need to ever recharge, that can't be disarmed or disabled short of killing them. They also get hulk, which adds 50% damage reduction here in addition to the punching and breaking walls, stacking with the explorer armor. And you blame the massacre that broken chain of genetic powers caused on people engaging the obvious antag sabotaging the engine, as if security and engineering are getting payed to not do their jobs?

The problem here is that instead of making an antag and giving them an objective, you made an unkillable murder machine, gave them an objective that would result in the crew forcefully responding, and actively aided the antag with admin powers to keep the event going along the pre-planned design you set for it instead of letting things play out naturally.

Then instead of removing the weapon, you muted dsay and ignored everyone while the bodies stacked up, and you wonder why people complain? Shit happens, it's not like genetics being borderline broken code on Polaris is common knowledge, but the least you can do is toss an "I'm sorry" out when it turns out you accidentally gave someone a broken weapon that resulted in a one sided, unfair fight.

Knightfall5 wrote: The wishgranter avatar gets laser vision, which is unmaintained and broken code. It's a rapid fire laser carbine that fires as fast as you can click, with no need to ever recharge, that can't be disarmed or disabled short of killing them. They also get hulk, which adds 50% damage reduction here in addition to the punching and breaking walls, stacking with the explorer armor. And you blame the massacre that broken chain of genetic powers caused on people engaging the obvious antag sabotaging the engine, as if security and engineering are getting payed to not do their jobs?

The problem here is that instead of making an antag and giving them an objective, you made an unkillable murder machine, gave them an objective that would result in the crew forcefully responding, and actively aided the antag with admin powers to keep the event going along the pre-planned design you set for it instead of letting things play out naturally.

Then instead of removing the weapon, you muted dsay and ignored everyone while the bodies stacked up, and you wonder why people complain? Shit happens, it's not like genetics being borderline broken code on Polaris is common knowledge, but the least you can do is toss an "I'm sorry" out when it turns out you accidentally gave someone a broken weapon that resulted in a one sided, unfair fight.

Multiple people encountered the wish granter.
Antag even was who was interviewed about the wishgranter, by the RD.
Multiple people were saying the antag, who was known to have been in contact with the wish granter, was acting odd. The antag wasnt subtle about being 'off', there was plenty warning for peopel to respond to his intent to sabotage.

Security found engineering broken into, which fit with what was put together about the engine being his goal about 'getting rid of the humming crystal'.
red alert was instated, security responded with tasers instead of lethals.
It was one sided because security didnt respond properly to terrorism and red alert with lethals which are, by the IC laws, required.

If lethals were used by security, the sheer numbers would have enabled security to take down the antag, easy. Three people had, and even took, the chance to fre off tasers to the antag who immediately responded with lethaling them down.

Only five people died. Of the people that died, they were directly involved with the hold up in the engine room. The complaints were brief, stifled, misconceptions cleared and points clarified, and the complaints stopped. Noone else died. Bodies didnt stack up.

It was one sided because security gimped themselves in responding.

I also doubt you were involved either, considering the misinformation.

And frankly, this goes for everyone.
If you werent involved, dont fuckin' repeat limited or false information.
Let the people this complaint was made in place of, post, before you jump on the bandwagon.

It makes you seem like a whiner for the sake of whining.

Welp, 5 clonable corpse isn't something that fuck the round so much. I'm with the admin on that one.

Sylas wrote:

Knightfall5 wrote: The wishgranter avatar gets laser vision, which is unmaintained and broken code. It's a rapid fire laser carbine that fires as fast as you can click, with no need to ever recharge, that can't be disarmed or disabled short of killing them. They also get hulk, which adds 50% damage reduction here in addition to the punching and breaking walls, stacking with the explorer armor. And you blame the massacre that broken chain of genetic powers caused on people engaging the obvious antag sabotaging the engine, as if security and engineering are getting payed to not do their jobs?

The problem here is that instead of making an antag and giving them an objective, you made an unkillable murder machine, gave them an objective that would result in the crew forcefully responding, and actively aided the antag with admin powers to keep the event going along the pre-planned design you set for it instead of letting things play out naturally.

Then instead of removing the weapon, you muted dsay and ignored everyone while the bodies stacked up, and you wonder why people complain? Shit happens, it's not like genetics being borderline broken code on Polaris is common knowledge, but the least you can do is toss an "I'm sorry" out when it turns out you accidentally gave someone a broken weapon that resulted in a one sided, unfair fight.

Multiple people encountered the wish granter.
Antag even was who was interviewed about the wishgranter, by the RD.
Multiple people were saying the antag, who was known to have been in contact with the wish granter, was acting odd. The antag wasnt subtle about being 'off', there was plenty warning for peopel to respond to his intent to sabotage.

Security found engineering broken into, which fit with what was put together about the engine being his goal about 'getting rid of the humming crystal'.
red alert was instated, security responded with tasers instead of lethals.
It was one sided because security didnt respond properly to terrorism and red alert with lethals which are, by the IC laws, required.

If lethals were used by security, the sheer numbers would have enabled security to take down the antag, easy. Three people had, and even took, the chance to fre off tasers to the antag who immediately responded with lethaling them down.

Only five people died. Of the people that died, they were directly involved with the hold up in the engine room. The complaints were brief, stifled, misconceptions cleared and points clarified, and the complaints stopped. Noone else died. Bodies didnt stack up.

It was one sided because security gimped themselves in responding.

I also doubt you were involved either, considering the misinformation.

And frankly, this goes for everyone.
If you werent involved, dont fuckin' repeat limited or false information.
Let the people this complaint was made in place of, post, before you jump on the bandwagon.

It makes you seem like a whiner for the sake of whining.

He was clearly unstable, or out of his mind so to say, so why would security respond with lethals? Maybe you should read SoP or something, because what appears to be a completely unarmed person who is insane isn't something most officers are gonna lethal. It's easy to go in hindsight "Well, they should have used lethals on the hulk spewing lasers", but they had no way to know to do so until it was too late, and since he was unstunnable with a broken weapon they just all died.

Just because you disagree with what I'm saying doesn't make it "fake news", you made someone unstunnable with a broken weapon and that is a fact.
Also the complaints were brief because you muted dsay and ignored them, shocking how that might suddenly make everyone stop complaining. It's not like I'm calling for your head or something, just an acknowledgement that giving people laser vision was a mistake that shouldn't happen again, atleast until/if it is fixed code-wise.

I find it a running gag that every time an admin bus is done, people complain. Regardless of a vote. This admin complaint is of no surprise to me. Course it wasn't voted for, but do they really have to vote every time an antag is around? The only thing that was regretful in my eyes was how overpowered they were. But that is to be expected with the wishgranter according to what I am reading. I wasn't involved in that hold up, but I ended up messing with the antag and he only did warning shots to make me run away, so Jade is telling the truth when he made it clear to not harm anyone that wasn't actively doing much to them.

Knightfall5 wrote:

Sylas wrote:

Knightfall5 wrote: The wishgranter avatar gets laser vision, which is unmaintained and broken code. It's a rapid fire laser carbine that fires as fast as you can click, with no need to ever recharge, that can't be disarmed or disabled short of killing them. They also get hulk, which adds 50% damage reduction here in addition to the punching and breaking walls, stacking with the explorer armor. And you blame the massacre that broken chain of genetic powers caused on people engaging the obvious antag sabotaging the engine, as if security and engineering are getting payed to not do their jobs?

The problem here is that instead of making an antag and giving them an objective, you made an unkillable murder machine, gave them an objective that would result in the crew forcefully responding, and actively aided the antag with admin powers to keep the event going along the pre-planned design you set for it instead of letting things play out naturally.

Then instead of removing the weapon, you muted dsay and ignored everyone while the bodies stacked up, and you wonder why people complain? Shit happens, it's not like genetics being borderline broken code on Polaris is common knowledge, but the least you can do is toss an "I'm sorry" out when it turns out you accidentally gave someone a broken weapon that resulted in a one sided, unfair fight.

Multiple people encountered the wish granter.
Antag even was who was interviewed about the wishgranter, by the RD.
Multiple people were saying the antag, who was known to have been in contact with the wish granter, was acting odd. The antag wasnt subtle about being 'off', there was plenty warning for peopel to respond to his intent to sabotage.

Security found engineering broken into, which fit with what was put together about the engine being his goal about 'getting rid of the humming crystal'.
red alert was instated, security responded with tasers instead of lethals.
It was one sided because security didnt respond properly to terrorism and red alert with lethals which are, by the IC laws, required.

If lethals were used by security, the sheer numbers would have enabled security to take down the antag, easy. Three people had, and even took, the chance to fre off tasers to the antag who immediately responded with lethaling them down.

Only five people died. Of the people that died, they were directly involved with the hold up in the engine room. The complaints were brief, stifled, misconceptions cleared and points clarified, and the complaints stopped. Noone else died. Bodies didnt stack up.

It was one sided because security gimped themselves in responding.

I also doubt you were involved either, considering the misinformation.

And frankly, this goes for everyone.
If you werent involved, dont fuckin' repeat limited or false information.
Let the people this complaint was made in place of, post, before you jump on the bandwagon.

It makes you seem like a whiner for the sake of whining.

He was clearly unstable, or out of his mind so to say, so why would security respond with lethals? Maybe you should read SoP or something, because what appears to be a completely unarmed person who is insane isn't something most officers are gonna lethal. It's easy to go in hindsight "Well, they should have used lethals on the hulk spewing lasers", but they had no way to know to do so until it was too late, and since he was unstunnable with a broken weapon they just all died.

Just because you disagree with what I'm saying doesn't make it "fake news", you made someone unstunnable with a broken weapon and that is a fact.
Also the complaints were brief because you muted dsay and ignored them, shocking how that might suddenly make everyone stop complaining. It's not like I'm calling for your head or something, just an acknowledgement that giving people laser vision was a mistake that shouldn't happen again, atleast until/if it is fixed code-wise.

Maybe you should re-read what I said. The lethals were required to respond to a sabotage threat deduced from interaction with him over comms, which red alert was immediately put in place for.

A terrorist threat is still terrorism and is a major regulations infraction. The person was confrontex in the process of sabotaging the engine. This is an imminent peril situation where lethal force is allowed, and justifiable as self defense. Additionally, like I said, it was red alert. Lethals are supposed to be provided to security for such a situation.

Im disagreeing with what youre saying, because you're misinformed and refuse to acknowledge that. You were not a part of the situation, so stop trying to white knight this. The people that died, asides from ARS afaik, were fine with dying.

This complaint honestly shouldnt have been made. Neither you nor Rush were involved, not even indirectly, and I was even backed up by Bhijn and Blackmajor, that everything was handled properly.

So you disagree that nothing is wrong with laser vision and that it is a perfectly valid thing to give to people? I'm not the one who made this complaint, the fact that I'm speaking up has to do with you blatantly trying to mislead people. Just because it is a genetic power doesn't mean it isn't a weapon. The least you can do is acknowledge it's a bad thing to give people and that it shouldn't happen in the future because it is broken.

The fact of security responding with non-lethals we can go back and forth with all day, but security shouldn't be dissed for trying to non-lethally take down people instead of just lol-killing the antag on sight. You saying I have no context is just a red herring distracting from the fact that you REFUSE to acknowledge the broken weapon and take even a bit of responsibility and maturity and admit that was a mistake.