[RP] Crashinator08 - Noting and banning me for speaking german and arguing against him.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:02 am
BYOND Name of complaint against: Crashinator08
Your BYOND name: FargothUr911
Date of issue and round ID: 27/07/2019
Reason for complaint:
Here is the context, I was playing as Evelyn Ludwig, a paramedic in the shift before this one, I was talking over comms with another individual in a different language, that being german, now, Crashinator08 messaged me at the end of the shift, asking if I had a moment, of course I said yes. He told me not to speak german, of course I argued against it, at first saying I was roleplaying, to which he said that wasnt allowed and he seemed quite adamant that it was non negotiable, of course, he then pulls the server caveat against me on this here website for reference: https://citadel-station-rules.my-free.website/. This is the caveat in question. "You must be able to read and write English with a level of comprehension meeting the US Grade 11-12 standard." of course, I saw a discrepancy in this, stating that the rules say I must be able to read and write in english and that I am not required to.
I requested another admin as I wanted a second opinion on this, as not only did the server rules, yet again, never said that I had to speak only english, but that Crashinator08 banned me for killing someone, which I will admit, that ban was deserved, but the fact that he even admitted on my previous complaint that he didn't check the history properly, falsley banning me for a day instead of three.
He eventually messaged me back, sending me this picture: https://gyazo.com/3f410ed1a83e024342dafb96fa180d84, which I argued that the server rules needed an update to suit this message, I then said that I should not be punished for breaking a rule that was never shown on the server rules website, he then said he was noting me because of speaking german and arguing against him, I then said I would send a complaint about it and then I got banned.
To summarise: Not only did I get noted for something that was never mentioned in the rules, but also, immediately banned. The only source that he used to argue against me speaking german was a discord message, which, again, is not the same as the server rules. I felt like I wasn't given a proper opportunity to reason, so now I am moving it here.
Your BYOND name: FargothUr911
Date of issue and round ID: 27/07/2019
Reason for complaint:
Here is the context, I was playing as Evelyn Ludwig, a paramedic in the shift before this one, I was talking over comms with another individual in a different language, that being german, now, Crashinator08 messaged me at the end of the shift, asking if I had a moment, of course I said yes. He told me not to speak german, of course I argued against it, at first saying I was roleplaying, to which he said that wasnt allowed and he seemed quite adamant that it was non negotiable, of course, he then pulls the server caveat against me on this here website for reference: https://citadel-station-rules.my-free.website/. This is the caveat in question. "You must be able to read and write English with a level of comprehension meeting the US Grade 11-12 standard." of course, I saw a discrepancy in this, stating that the rules say I must be able to read and write in english and that I am not required to.
I requested another admin as I wanted a second opinion on this, as not only did the server rules, yet again, never said that I had to speak only english, but that Crashinator08 banned me for killing someone, which I will admit, that ban was deserved, but the fact that he even admitted on my previous complaint that he didn't check the history properly, falsley banning me for a day instead of three.
He eventually messaged me back, sending me this picture: https://gyazo.com/3f410ed1a83e024342dafb96fa180d84, which I argued that the server rules needed an update to suit this message, I then said that I should not be punished for breaking a rule that was never shown on the server rules website, he then said he was noting me because of speaking german and arguing against him, I then said I would send a complaint about it and then I got banned.
To summarise: Not only did I get noted for something that was never mentioned in the rules, but also, immediately banned. The only source that he used to argue against me speaking german was a discord message, which, again, is not the same as the server rules. I felt like I wasn't given a proper opportunity to reason, so now I am moving it here.