[RP] Kazkin - Unfair Brigging, Failure to Follow Chain of Command and Lack of Cooperation With Other Players
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:02 pm
BYOND Name of complaint against: Kazkin
Your BYOND name: ForFoxSake
Date of issue and round ID: 9th of July 2019 - Ongoing. RP/No Round ID
Reason for complaint:
I'm going to interrupt the flow of this complaint by starting with a brief outline, so that people looking for the what and why don't have to scroll through everything.
Ahzrukhal Ahkeen's time in security so far has been rife with misinterpretations of corporate regulation, exceeding their authority and failures to cooperate with the rest of the team.
I know that Kazkin aims to be a valued member of this community, and I think they can do better than this.
I would also usually bring a problem like this up in private, but in this case I'm afraid any attempt to do so would be turned into a personal attack against myself.
Now, I've dated this as the 9th of July till now, but this has been going on slightly longer. I looked through the information I had until that date, but that seemed to be roughly when the issues began.
Finally to the full complaint.
Over the past month or so Kazkin has been playing their character Ahzrukhal Ahkeen as a Warden, and during this time their behaviour has been fairly consistent.
Personally my first run in with Ahzrukhal as warden was, unfortunately, playing as Head of Security. Where I was promptly greeted as I got to my office, with the threat of demotion should I "step out of line". Concerned that the first words to greet me from the warden was both a threat and exceeding their authority to boot, I brought it up with Internal Affairs.
Hazel should be able to confirm this incident as they were playing the IA agent I spoke to.
So after a brief but serious IC discussion, I believed that everything was resolved and nothing like this would ever come up again.
How wrong I was.
Onwards to the 9th of July incident - the furthest back I could find reference to. I'm not going to go through this in full, as I believe almost everyone knows what happened here. But in brief: the CE, CMO and HoP were arrested at the same time in a single incident. Now, I believe the details of their sentencing was handled in an ahelp, and while I feel this was a case of unfair brigging going over it again would make this post three times longer.
At the time of this incident, I was playing as Colony Director, and was busy enjoying a romantic meal for two while the three other heads were being arrested. I had all radio channels on at the time, and was skimming them vaguely for anything signs of people calling for my attention. There were none.
It wasn't until the AI said "Director, why are all the command staff in the brig?" over the security channel that anything seemed unusual. Naturally, shortly after hearing that, I ran up to security so fast I nearly locked the person I was roleplaying with in the office. But arriving at security, I found the Head of Security looking as confused as I was. Ahzrukhal claimed that they had made every attempt to alert us of what was happening, but a quick scroll upwards revealed no call for assistance or input from the HoS or myself the CD.
Unfortunately that left both myself and the HoS all of 3 minutes before the tram arrived, and dashed our attempts at actually piecing together the events that had happened, and robbing us of any chance to resolve the issue.
Jessica Dreyse was the HoS that round, and should be able confirm the events.
There's a long gap of involvement from me, personally here, as I've begun playing less from that point on. Especially avoiding command positions. I'm not going to sugar coat this one, it was witnessing Kazkin's attitude towards playing security that caused this period of reduced activity.
The next incident I remember off the top of my head happened a few days ago, when I for some strange reason decided to try playing Head of Security again. This incident started with a security officer insulting the bartender, and taking a beanbag shell to the face for it. I was busy on another part of the station at the time, and was attempting to assess what was happening but it proved difficult as I was only receiving the small fragments of information that other officers had, or that Ahzrukhal decided were "worthy of my attention" (that is to say, all of virtually nothing).
Arriving late, and with little idea of what was going on, I attempted to deal with the situation by pointing out that the offending officer wasn't hurt and that there wasn't any real issue, but my attempts at taking control of the situation were quickly impeded by Ahzrukhal threatening to demote the officer, and put them in the brig for "maximum sentence", which I can only imagine probably bordered on a HuT.
That sums up the specific rounds that I have directly been involved in, as a member of command. I don't even remotely have a count of how many times similar situations have come up in the past month, that don't involve me. But I know there at least several others.
It seems to me as though all these issues stem from two attitudes that could use some adjustment.
The first is that all other security and head players are bad, and that they must be punished as much as possible.
The second being that they feel the need to answer to no one, and that their own input is final and committal above all others.
What's shocking to me is that I've seen on several occasions, one from Avarice even, that the first of these problems is perfectly okay because "heads need to be held to a higher standard". This doesn't fly at all with me, as "heads need to be held to a higher standard" has been the administration's team slogan for some time, and as much as I know indirect enforcement is preferred, I struggle to believe that this wild vigilantism would fly for actual administrative enforcement.
The second issue makes it very difficult to play any head role when Ahzrukhal is on the manifest, as even when they are simply a Warden, they could show up at any moment and take charge of the situation, completely blanking any request to stand down or any attempt to regain control from a commanding member of staff.
I find it quite sad that I'm having to open a player complaint without ever having attempted to contact Kazkin privately about this, as it's really something I'd prefer to do. Privately resolving grievances and issues is really my go-to, but given SovietCyanide's recent experience attempting the same (that he's given me express permission to post here), I am not confident that my concerns would be heard without petty insults being thrown at me.
As such it's come to this, so I'm placing my faith in the forum and hoping that everyone that responds to this thread will do so in a calm and polite manner, without resorting to any personal attacks.
Now that the main body of the complaint is out of the way, I'm going to address you directly Kazkin.
I've never given you any reason to take issue with me, and this isn't me specifically taking issue with you as person.
But the way you've been playing recently, has been making the game less fun for myself and several others.
Please don't shrug this off as some kind of petty rant, I desperately want to see this resolved in a way that benefits everyone.
Your BYOND name: ForFoxSake
Date of issue and round ID: 9th of July 2019 - Ongoing. RP/No Round ID
Reason for complaint:
I'm going to interrupt the flow of this complaint by starting with a brief outline, so that people looking for the what and why don't have to scroll through everything.
Ahzrukhal Ahkeen's time in security so far has been rife with misinterpretations of corporate regulation, exceeding their authority and failures to cooperate with the rest of the team.
I know that Kazkin aims to be a valued member of this community, and I think they can do better than this.
I would also usually bring a problem like this up in private, but in this case I'm afraid any attempt to do so would be turned into a personal attack against myself.
Now, I've dated this as the 9th of July till now, but this has been going on slightly longer. I looked through the information I had until that date, but that seemed to be roughly when the issues began.
Finally to the full complaint.
Over the past month or so Kazkin has been playing their character Ahzrukhal Ahkeen as a Warden, and during this time their behaviour has been fairly consistent.
Personally my first run in with Ahzrukhal as warden was, unfortunately, playing as Head of Security. Where I was promptly greeted as I got to my office, with the threat of demotion should I "step out of line". Concerned that the first words to greet me from the warden was both a threat and exceeding their authority to boot, I brought it up with Internal Affairs.
Hazel should be able to confirm this incident as they were playing the IA agent I spoke to.
So after a brief but serious IC discussion, I believed that everything was resolved and nothing like this would ever come up again.
How wrong I was.
Onwards to the 9th of July incident - the furthest back I could find reference to. I'm not going to go through this in full, as I believe almost everyone knows what happened here. But in brief: the CE, CMO and HoP were arrested at the same time in a single incident. Now, I believe the details of their sentencing was handled in an ahelp, and while I feel this was a case of unfair brigging going over it again would make this post three times longer.
At the time of this incident, I was playing as Colony Director, and was busy enjoying a romantic meal for two while the three other heads were being arrested. I had all radio channels on at the time, and was skimming them vaguely for anything signs of people calling for my attention. There were none.
It wasn't until the AI said "Director, why are all the command staff in the brig?" over the security channel that anything seemed unusual. Naturally, shortly after hearing that, I ran up to security so fast I nearly locked the person I was roleplaying with in the office. But arriving at security, I found the Head of Security looking as confused as I was. Ahzrukhal claimed that they had made every attempt to alert us of what was happening, but a quick scroll upwards revealed no call for assistance or input from the HoS or myself the CD.
Unfortunately that left both myself and the HoS all of 3 minutes before the tram arrived, and dashed our attempts at actually piecing together the events that had happened, and robbing us of any chance to resolve the issue.
Jessica Dreyse was the HoS that round, and should be able confirm the events.
There's a long gap of involvement from me, personally here, as I've begun playing less from that point on. Especially avoiding command positions. I'm not going to sugar coat this one, it was witnessing Kazkin's attitude towards playing security that caused this period of reduced activity.
The next incident I remember off the top of my head happened a few days ago, when I for some strange reason decided to try playing Head of Security again. This incident started with a security officer insulting the bartender, and taking a beanbag shell to the face for it. I was busy on another part of the station at the time, and was attempting to assess what was happening but it proved difficult as I was only receiving the small fragments of information that other officers had, or that Ahzrukhal decided were "worthy of my attention" (that is to say, all of virtually nothing).
Arriving late, and with little idea of what was going on, I attempted to deal with the situation by pointing out that the offending officer wasn't hurt and that there wasn't any real issue, but my attempts at taking control of the situation were quickly impeded by Ahzrukhal threatening to demote the officer, and put them in the brig for "maximum sentence", which I can only imagine probably bordered on a HuT.
That sums up the specific rounds that I have directly been involved in, as a member of command. I don't even remotely have a count of how many times similar situations have come up in the past month, that don't involve me. But I know there at least several others.
It seems to me as though all these issues stem from two attitudes that could use some adjustment.
The first is that all other security and head players are bad, and that they must be punished as much as possible.
The second being that they feel the need to answer to no one, and that their own input is final and committal above all others.
What's shocking to me is that I've seen on several occasions, one from Avarice even, that the first of these problems is perfectly okay because "heads need to be held to a higher standard". This doesn't fly at all with me, as "heads need to be held to a higher standard" has been the administration's team slogan for some time, and as much as I know indirect enforcement is preferred, I struggle to believe that this wild vigilantism would fly for actual administrative enforcement.
The second issue makes it very difficult to play any head role when Ahzrukhal is on the manifest, as even when they are simply a Warden, they could show up at any moment and take charge of the situation, completely blanking any request to stand down or any attempt to regain control from a commanding member of staff.
I find it quite sad that I'm having to open a player complaint without ever having attempted to contact Kazkin privately about this, as it's really something I'd prefer to do. Privately resolving grievances and issues is really my go-to, but given SovietCyanide's recent experience attempting the same (that he's given me express permission to post here), I am not confident that my concerns would be heard without petty insults being thrown at me.
As such it's come to this, so I'm placing my faith in the forum and hoping that everyone that responds to this thread will do so in a calm and polite manner, without resorting to any personal attacks.
Now that the main body of the complaint is out of the way, I'm going to address you directly Kazkin.
I've never given you any reason to take issue with me, and this isn't me specifically taking issue with you as person.
But the way you've been playing recently, has been making the game less fun for myself and several others.
Please don't shrug this off as some kind of petty rant, I desperately want to see this resolved in a way that benefits everyone.