All right, now that I'm feeling a bit physically better, let me go through the complaint, and give my thoughts on things.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
At another point I attacked someone who had slapped my ass along with my holopara, something that the heads of staff at the time (one of which was Zephyr) were fine with considering the context.
A random head of staff doesn't have anything to do with if someone is valid or not to beat up, why would they? Unless you're talking about security, the head of security, the captain, or the acting captain, why would the Chief Medical Officer have the authority to declare someone safe or not? The Chief Engineer doesn't, neither does the Quartermaster. I can pull some rules about falling within your job, or security rules if you want. But a CMO has
no authority to declare that. Saying "the heads of staff at the time" means absolutely nothing, this is about security and if an assistant overstepped their bounds in attacking you.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
While I was hanging out near medical and science just talking to my holopara, I suddenly got jumped by Amidal wielding two spears without any prior warning or interaction.
We don't have rules for engagement, this point is irrelevant. But, see the next sentence.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
Now, I did hear prior over the radio them threaten to kill me, but for full context security was well staffed for the pop as was command, and neither were interested in killing me, being perfectly okay with my existence.
So they
did give a warning/threat, which was your point previously, meaning you directly contradicted yourself.
I can talk about sec on the next quote.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
At no point did security attempt to arrest me, at no point did command attempt to shut me down. I never at any point even interacted with or provoked Amidal which made the situation all the more confusing to me. I got hit into crit by the spear rush, and a security officer attempted to bring me to medical to save me before Amidal gave chase to finish me off, where I then dusted.
Command has nothing to do with arresting people, as I mentioned previously.
Security not arresting you is, fine. But, an assistant doesn't have access to security comms, they don't know if someone is valid or not to attack, they don't know everything that you've done, or anything else like that. I'll talk more about
why they did this, and what I talked to them about after all of these points are throuhg.
Furthermore, there were 3 security personnel at the time, at least when I checked. Gronk, the HoS and acting captain, was dead in space, there was a warden who didn't leave the brig, and a security officer who was being actively incompetent/new (I was hearing about them arresting corpses, and also asking for drugs from the CMO). Saying "full security team" is a bit of an extreme considering the spare ID was lying in space, on the only actively capable sec officer for long enough that there was a centcom message asking for help from Zephyr.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
Pretty much all IC text pointed to the fact none of the other crew members were in any way interested in killing me, and were in fact upset and confused by my death.
I don't think "upset and confused" is a good phrase for someone going "hang on, what happened?". Because people don't know what's going on in this game at all points, so asking why someone got killed explains why they got killed. At least from the quotes you posted from two people.
I don't really consider this a good reason on why this justified anything, people don't know what's going on, it's fine.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
After this, I made an ahelp briefly explaining what had happened, and all I got was the standard and ever loathed "IC ISSUE" message. MrJWhit was the only admin online at the time so I assume they are the one that responded.
I don't remember if Chase left before or after your ahelp, but yeah, I hit the IC button after talking to Amidal for about 15 minutes.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
In this situation, they searched out, hunted for, and attacked me when they were an assistant, and while they were in no way threatened by me. It also states under rule 7 that
So, let's talk about what was happening from their perspective, because I did talk to them.
Something you're conveniently forgetting is that this
was after about an hour+ of the round, of which you spent the majority running around as a known traitor from the holoparasite, and the emagging, and being incredibly obvious about it, and so on. You yourself were saying that you were actively running around being a known traitor, and you weren't attacked beforehand.
So, why did they attack you then? Something must have changed with the round in order for them to view you as a threat.
There was a mad bomber lose, someone going around blowing stuff up and actively causing chaos and overwhelming the engineering department. That's what caused the internal flip.
So, there's suddenly an evil traitor on the station, actively trying to break this science facility. Who could it be? Any one of us? Or, the person who has been running around, emagging shit, calling a threatening shuttle (which directly calls you out by name), talking about their holoparasite, and being a known traitor?
It's not good logic, and I actually did talk to them about making sure to not dump all of the behavior on one person. Because it's not great, and we talked about it for those 15 minutes your ahelp went unanswered.
During that time, other things drew my attention. Including someone stopping security from arresting someone they barely talked to. Someone breaking into sec and stealing weapons with a jackhammer. And also, to be perfectly honest, my computer was starting to overheat by the time I could explain to you what was going on, so I hit the IC button.
Plus, as Rag mentioned, assistants
don't have a job to abandon. It would make sense if security is too died up being incompetent and dead to solve a rampaging traitor, that they would help out in their own spear-throwing way.
Tupina wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm
My ideas to maybe set up a duel between me and the HoS for my glorious death objective couldn't come to fruition because of this, and I don't think it's fair to anyone when a single person ruins it for everyone else, and it's considered acceptable.
Tupina, I'm going to be completely honest here:
What you just said here was the most complete garbage I think you have ever said, and you honestly should think about that.
How the absolute hell would someone:
1. Know what your objectives are.
2. Want to actively promote you completing your objectives (and thereby be acting against the rules by working for a known antagonist).
3. Claim that you potentially asking for a 1v1 "ruin it for everyone else".
This is incredibly stupid, and an awful point to end your argument on.