RDT Ban Appeal
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:25 pm
BYOND Name: RealDonaldTrump
Reason Banned:Â Metabuddying with Grayrachnid as their in character husband. Took them mining for nearly an hour, giving them quite a bit of powerful lavaland loot, as well as their genetics powers when they returned to station to go spacewalking. - Trojan Coyote
Admin who banned: Kersakof/Trojan_Coyote - I'm requesting a headadmin deal with my appeal because I believe they hold bias against me.
Length Banned:Â 15120 minutes.
Appeal Reason: Wrongful ban applied without context and or actual rulebreaking. This entire ban reason was designed to put an immediate spin on things to make me seem immediately in the wrong, so let's just copy and paste my adminPMs.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: lemme hear your full side of the story.
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PM to-Admins: Syllin and I have been mining for about.. thirty, forty minutes now? We've killed all the megafauna and now we're bored, so we were going to go exploring space. Went out there, she started dying in the bluespace body bag from the pressure for some reason so instead of stealing an EVA suit (which is grand B&E and Grand Theft etc.), we decided to go in to genetics where she has ACCESS and give her my cold resistance. CMO bursts in on his high horse and immediately demands we both leave before whipping out his baton and smacking me with it. I disarmed him, took him down with it, then got absolutely buttrushed by security, an atmos tech, assistants and I think a chemist.
PM to-Admins: CMO proceeded to demand the fucking world of everyone, forcefeeding me mutadone (which wouldn't work) and demanding Syl have everything removed from her.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: sounds pretty cut and dry metabuddying on your part.
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PM to-Admins: How the fuck is it metabuddying? She's been helping me out keeping my mech alive on lavaland, so of course I was going to give her cold res to keep her alive while we go exploring space.
PM to-Admins: And before you say that I could have gotten another miner to do it, as far as I'm aware all of them are dead except maybe Minta or Mitsu or something along those lines.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: you gave her genetics powers instead of buying a mining suit, and actively fought against arrest for something that'd only be a few minutes, as well as teleporting out of the brig and such. also, bringing a scientist to lavaland and sharing all the loot
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PM to-Admins: I used my points already to buy survival pens and gear for myself on mining. I shared the loot because she helped me kill the megafauna in the first place.
PM to-Admins: I actively fought against the CMO trying to arrest me for 'trespassing' because Syl, a SCIENTIST, let me in to genetics.
PM to-Admins: I was in the brig for five minutes while Sanax was running around shooting other people outside the brig, so when they set the timer for a whole minute I teleported out and said fuck that.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: being let into somewhere you dont have access to is still tresspassing.
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PM to-Admins: No, it's not.
PM to-Admins: Trespassing, Notes: Always check that the suspect wasn't let in to do a job by someone with access, or were given access on their ID.
The only lavaland loot that Syllin was given by me was a spare ash drake suit, so the ash storms wouldn't kill them while we were fighting megafauna. If you consider that to be 'powerful loot' then let's just ignore the contents of my backpack.
https://i.imgur.com/NCOyRIU.png
They had not been given any genetics powers at the point of the CMO bursting in, I was in the process of giving them the cold resistance gene so we could go space exploring without needing to steal an EVA suit. As stated, I had already used my mining points to get gear for myself including a few survival pens and PKA upgrades. They had spent an hour helping me out with mining and megafauna hunting prior to this, since they'd already completed science and blown up some ridiculous 200k point bomb, getting everything the station needed done, so I gave them something to do, which was helping me out with staying alive because every other miner had already either died or left to do other things. How any of this is worth an ELEVEN DAY ban I have no idea.
Also, as an additional note. The current rules have no mention of metabuddying or keeping in-character relationships, nor do they mention helping someone out who's been helping you out the entire shift. If this was the case then practically everyone on the server should be banned.
Reason Banned:Â Metabuddying with Grayrachnid as their in character husband. Took them mining for nearly an hour, giving them quite a bit of powerful lavaland loot, as well as their genetics powers when they returned to station to go spacewalking. - Trojan Coyote
Admin who banned: Kersakof/Trojan_Coyote - I'm requesting a headadmin deal with my appeal because I believe they hold bias against me.
Length Banned:Â 15120 minutes.
Appeal Reason: Wrongful ban applied without context and or actual rulebreaking. This entire ban reason was designed to put an immediate spin on things to make me seem immediately in the wrong, so let's just copy and paste my adminPMs.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: lemme hear your full side of the story.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: Syllin and I have been mining for about.. thirty, forty minutes now? We've killed all the megafauna and now we're bored, so we were going to go exploring space. Went out there, she started dying in the bluespace body bag from the pressure for some reason so instead of stealing an EVA suit (which is grand B&E and Grand Theft etc.), we decided to go in to genetics where she has ACCESS and give her my cold resistance. CMO bursts in on his high horse and immediately demands we both leave before whipping out his baton and smacking me with it. I disarmed him, took him down with it, then got absolutely buttrushed by security, an atmos tech, assistants and I think a chemist.
PM to-Admins: CMO proceeded to demand the fucking world of everyone, forcefeeding me mutadone (which wouldn't work) and demanding Syl have everything removed from her.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: sounds pretty cut and dry metabuddying on your part.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: How the fuck is it metabuddying? She's been helping me out keeping my mech alive on lavaland, so of course I was going to give her cold res to keep her alive while we go exploring space.
PM to-Admins: And before you say that I could have gotten another miner to do it, as far as I'm aware all of them are dead except maybe Minta or Mitsu or something along those lines.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: you gave her genetics powers instead of buying a mining suit, and actively fought against arrest for something that'd only be a few minutes, as well as teleporting out of the brig and such. also, bringing a scientist to lavaland and sharing all the loot
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: I used my points already to buy survival pens and gear for myself on mining. I shared the loot because she helped me kill the megafauna in the first place.
PM to-Admins: I actively fought against the CMO trying to arrest me for 'trespassing' because Syl, a SCIENTIST, let me in to genetics.
PM to-Admins: I was in the brig for five minutes while Sanax was running around shooting other people outside the brig, so when they set the timer for a whole minute I teleported out and said fuck that.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Trojan_Coyote: being let into somewhere you dont have access to is still tresspassing.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: No, it's not.
PM to-Admins: Trespassing, Notes: Always check that the suspect wasn't let in to do a job by someone with access, or were given access on their ID.
The only lavaland loot that Syllin was given by me was a spare ash drake suit, so the ash storms wouldn't kill them while we were fighting megafauna. If you consider that to be 'powerful loot' then let's just ignore the contents of my backpack.
https://i.imgur.com/NCOyRIU.png
They had not been given any genetics powers at the point of the CMO bursting in, I was in the process of giving them the cold resistance gene so we could go space exploring without needing to steal an EVA suit. As stated, I had already used my mining points to get gear for myself including a few survival pens and PKA upgrades. They had spent an hour helping me out with mining and megafauna hunting prior to this, since they'd already completed science and blown up some ridiculous 200k point bomb, getting everything the station needed done, so I gave them something to do, which was helping me out with staying alive because every other miner had already either died or left to do other things. How any of this is worth an ELEVEN DAY ban I have no idea.
Also, as an additional note. The current rules have no mention of metabuddying or keeping in-character relationships, nor do they mention helping someone out who's been helping you out the entire shift. If this was the case then practically everyone on the server should be banned.