[jaybird1] Shadowtail117 - RP server LOOC/OOC/Dchat ban
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:37 am
BYOND account and character name: shadowtail117 - N/A
Banning admin: jaybird1
Ban type/duration (where you are banned from and for how long): RP server ban from OOC, LOOC, and deadchat.
Ban reason: "Because he keeps harrassing other players, we have warned him and muted him from Dchat for the same reason. This is a straw that broke the camels back ban, please appeal on the boards."
Your side of the story:
I am aware of only a handful of incidents that would fall under this category, most of which I do not think are enough to warrant a ban, even collectively.
The first case was when someone told me that Jaybird's character, Trenton Stevens, had done some questionable things when operating on a patient. I joined the server and ghosted to see what had happened, and after I saw him about to make a similarly questionable decision, I remarked on it in deadchat. Jaybird apparently did not like this and, apparently still adminned and still viewing deadchat, got into an argument with me over it. I was also informed that before my arrival, Jaybird had gotten so angry over people roasting them in deadchat that they muted the entire channel until another admin had to intervene and remind them that deadchat preferences were a thing.
The second case surrounded an apparently-admin-sanctioned character, also involving Jaybird, in which Colfer was allowed to join as "Real V1 From Ultrakill" to go fight spiders. I saw this on the manifest and inquired both in an ahelp and in-character (as the HOS) since I wasn't sure if this was a greytider or not. After I learned that the character had explicitly been sanctioned despite very clear rules regarding naming characters after real-life characters, I decided to leave the round and remark in deadchat. Jaybird seemed to take this personally and forcefully removed the character from the round/manifest, but not before making more scathing replies.
The third case was an incident surrounding one of Roniko's characters antagonizing security for the better part of an hour. Without dredging it back up too much, I acknowledge my overreaction to the situation, but at the time, their constant taunts over the radio made me irate, and after I left, I vented about it in deadchat again. (Roniko, at this point, was still in the round and didn't see any of these messages). I left shortly afterward.
The fourth and final case in my memory was a few days ago when I had ghosted the round and heard my character (Khalek Hazzok)'s name mentioned, and after reading the conversation, I realized that the character in question was more or less gossiping about him behind his back. I brought this up in LOOC as I was genuinely curious if the player was OOC-ly offended by something he did, to which they replied that their character was the one offended, and over something that happened between them over a month ago. I remarked briefly and jokingly that they were apparently still salty over that and closed the game shortly after. I assume some time after this was when I actually received the ban, as I didn't realize it until the next day.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
The first incident was not limited only to me. I only joined to see what was going on, and Jaybird could have disabled their deadchat preference instead of arguing with me if they felt I was being rude. The second incident was also Jaybird's doing, and I am still unsure of exactly the circumstances around letting an Ultrakill character join the round. The third I see to be more an IC issue (or at the least, a misapplication of corporate regulations on my part), and no real harassment took place. Roniko and I also settled the matter privately. The fourth offense is the most egregious, and in hindsight, I would definitely have approached it differently; it's oftentimes a lot better to say nothing if you have nothing good to say. However, I do not believe my conduct warrants a three-way, permanent ban from arguably very important in-game communication channels.
Jaybird and I have a sort of history, including these first two instances and between some of our characters going back several months. Even within admin tickets on Discord, I believe they have a negative view of me, and I am concerned that this impacted their responses and their decision to make this ban. They are one of the only people I butt heads with, and in the majority of instances outside of what I outlined above, I only use LOOC for genuine reasons.
I have had my OOC preference disabled for several months, and only turn it on whenever a serverside issue occurs (such as extreme lag), and likewise, I rarely ghost long enough to speak in deadchat. The above cases only occurred because I was ticked off and wanted to vent my feelings, and I admit that there are better forums for that than bringing it all to the server. I will not repeat that kind of behavior again. The LOOC ban has impacted me the most since it is almost essential to play smoothly; there are frequent times when one needs to communicate something out of character, and without LOOC, that becomes difficult without skirting around the rules and using say/me messages to get it across. I don't want to have to do that and risk further punishment.
As a whole, I have been attempting to distance myself from the community, as I have come to realize that I tend to care more about in-game happenings than I should and thus get riled up about them easily. These events are major outliers and not indicative of how I usually behave. I ask that this ban be lifted so that I can continue to use arguably important functions of the game for the benefit of the people around me. I promise I will not abuse these channels to instigate or join OOC conflicts between myself and others. Thank you for your consideration.
Banning admin: jaybird1
Ban type/duration (where you are banned from and for how long): RP server ban from OOC, LOOC, and deadchat.
Ban reason: "Because he keeps harrassing other players, we have warned him and muted him from Dchat for the same reason. This is a straw that broke the camels back ban, please appeal on the boards."
Your side of the story:
I am aware of only a handful of incidents that would fall under this category, most of which I do not think are enough to warrant a ban, even collectively.
The first case was when someone told me that Jaybird's character, Trenton Stevens, had done some questionable things when operating on a patient. I joined the server and ghosted to see what had happened, and after I saw him about to make a similarly questionable decision, I remarked on it in deadchat. Jaybird apparently did not like this and, apparently still adminned and still viewing deadchat, got into an argument with me over it. I was also informed that before my arrival, Jaybird had gotten so angry over people roasting them in deadchat that they muted the entire channel until another admin had to intervene and remind them that deadchat preferences were a thing.
The second case surrounded an apparently-admin-sanctioned character, also involving Jaybird, in which Colfer was allowed to join as "Real V1 From Ultrakill" to go fight spiders. I saw this on the manifest and inquired both in an ahelp and in-character (as the HOS) since I wasn't sure if this was a greytider or not. After I learned that the character had explicitly been sanctioned despite very clear rules regarding naming characters after real-life characters, I decided to leave the round and remark in deadchat. Jaybird seemed to take this personally and forcefully removed the character from the round/manifest, but not before making more scathing replies.
The third case was an incident surrounding one of Roniko's characters antagonizing security for the better part of an hour. Without dredging it back up too much, I acknowledge my overreaction to the situation, but at the time, their constant taunts over the radio made me irate, and after I left, I vented about it in deadchat again. (Roniko, at this point, was still in the round and didn't see any of these messages). I left shortly afterward.
The fourth and final case in my memory was a few days ago when I had ghosted the round and heard my character (Khalek Hazzok)'s name mentioned, and after reading the conversation, I realized that the character in question was more or less gossiping about him behind his back. I brought this up in LOOC as I was genuinely curious if the player was OOC-ly offended by something he did, to which they replied that their character was the one offended, and over something that happened between them over a month ago. I remarked briefly and jokingly that they were apparently still salty over that and closed the game shortly after. I assume some time after this was when I actually received the ban, as I didn't realize it until the next day.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
The first incident was not limited only to me. I only joined to see what was going on, and Jaybird could have disabled their deadchat preference instead of arguing with me if they felt I was being rude. The second incident was also Jaybird's doing, and I am still unsure of exactly the circumstances around letting an Ultrakill character join the round. The third I see to be more an IC issue (or at the least, a misapplication of corporate regulations on my part), and no real harassment took place. Roniko and I also settled the matter privately. The fourth offense is the most egregious, and in hindsight, I would definitely have approached it differently; it's oftentimes a lot better to say nothing if you have nothing good to say. However, I do not believe my conduct warrants a three-way, permanent ban from arguably very important in-game communication channels.
Jaybird and I have a sort of history, including these first two instances and between some of our characters going back several months. Even within admin tickets on Discord, I believe they have a negative view of me, and I am concerned that this impacted their responses and their decision to make this ban. They are one of the only people I butt heads with, and in the majority of instances outside of what I outlined above, I only use LOOC for genuine reasons.
I have had my OOC preference disabled for several months, and only turn it on whenever a serverside issue occurs (such as extreme lag), and likewise, I rarely ghost long enough to speak in deadchat. The above cases only occurred because I was ticked off and wanted to vent my feelings, and I admit that there are better forums for that than bringing it all to the server. I will not repeat that kind of behavior again. The LOOC ban has impacted me the most since it is almost essential to play smoothly; there are frequent times when one needs to communicate something out of character, and without LOOC, that becomes difficult without skirting around the rules and using say/me messages to get it across. I don't want to have to do that and risk further punishment.
As a whole, I have been attempting to distance myself from the community, as I have come to realize that I tend to care more about in-game happenings than I should and thus get riled up about them easily. These events are major outliers and not indicative of how I usually behave. I ask that this ban be lifted so that I can continue to use arguably important functions of the game for the benefit of the people around me. I promise I will not abuse these channels to instigate or join OOC conflicts between myself and others. Thank you for your consideration.